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#406, by cottage (guest), on 23 November 2009, 11:16 pm

suicide is a difficult topic to deal with.. on the one hand, you think you should've noticed signs and done something.. on the other hand, even if you can sense that there's something bad cooking how to help? if you think about addictions, the story's somehow similar..

#407, by cottage (guest), on 23 November 2009, 10:47 pm

doing the same things again and again enriches but also dulls.. as experience makes you wise, people start noticing things that have been taken for granted so far for so long.. or it's as if suddenly you happen to understand what's truly (un)important.. you know, some kind of enlightenment.. i'm sure that if you watch the concert again in a few years' time, you'll discover new things in it.. to my mind, nirvana's unplugged is like some books that should be read every now and then.. thought-provoking and very emotional..

ps. sorry for all the cliches above..

#408, by Edyta (guest), on 23 November 2009, 9:06 pm

I just think that you couldn't possibly see that something was wrong with him on this performance. You should see Nirvana concert Live and Loud (13th December 1993). The concert that we've seen was light comparing to this one. On this concert he looks stoned and insane. You can see that sth is wrong before he spit on the camera.

#409, by Kamil (guest), on 23 November 2009, 8:25 pm

You're wrong, I think. Families notice nothing in most cases of suicides. Before suicide happens, families and friends hardly ever see something wrong. After all we could see something in his behaviour (or in eyes, whatever), because people always think "Didn't I see sth in his behaviour?" after suicide...

We cannot see anything before somebody's suicide, but after we can see many things, which we didn't care before, I think.

Family never know about suicide of member of family before it happens. But when it happens, they can notice many problems and see many things, which they didn't see before suicide. So the same way we could see that in Kurt's eyes.

#410, by Edyta (guest), on 23 November 2009, 7:34 pm

Kurt was typical suicide. What I mean is that everyone were shocked that he commit a suicide. If someone saw that's going to happen someone could do something instead of looking at his madness. I don't think that you could see his depression only by watching this concert, especially when even his friends haven't seen enything strange in his behaviour (using drugs for them was normal I guess).

What I love about Kurt is that he is ironic. Only because person uses irony doesn't mean that he is going to kill himself.

I missed so many english classes. I only hope that Ross won't complain ;D

#411, by PauLina (guest), on 23 November 2009, 7:00 pm

Mmmm :D I love Johnny Depp :D He's my favourite actor :D So this movie MUST be on Thursday, because I'll (Maciek and Ewelina too) have 1,5h in PON from 1st December... Pleeeeeeeaaaase!!!

Or we can start watching at 6.20 pm :P Please!

But I prefer Thursday...

#412, by Mr. Bean (guest), on 22 November 2009, 12:10 am

Kurt was mad, i could see it clearly. Sooner or later he would kill himself. But you know theres a theory that it wasnt a suicide? Im not convinced but its possible i think.

#413, by Kamil (guest), on 19 November 2009, 10:46 pm

and in conclusion, you should see that what Szoku said about Kurt and the rest members of Nirvana... there was a big difference between them...

#414, by Kamil (guest), on 19 November 2009, 10:38 pm

Yeah, I was talking with Szoku about that... I think we could see everything in Kurt's emotions... perhaps I am exaggerating, but I think he didn't look like happy person...

I rather saw... a pain? I saw a pain and I didn't see any happiness, because of giving a concert, which shouldn't happened, because on the contrary, people are happy when they are giving a concert, I think. In my opinion he looked as if he was supposed right away to say "I'm gonna to commit suicide"...

#415, by Szoku (guest), on 19 November 2009, 10:43 pm

But in the other way some people maybe have that kind of behaviour. But there was something in his eyes.

#416, by Szoku (guest), on 19 November 2009, 10:36 pm

So why are wasn`t today;>? Daniel asked wheter Kurt looked like man who would suicide. After thinking about that I think that it was in his eyes. You could see it good in the last song, Where did you sleep last night, cover of Leadbelly. At the end of song Kurt is screaming and he has closed eyes but in one moment while he is taking a breath he opened his eyes and camera shows his face and we can see how sad his eyes was, and than he started shouting again and closed eyes, but that moment we could see that in his eyes weren`t anything happy, his eyes were blurred. he loved music so where was his passion while was playing?

The other thing is his behave, other guys from band were smiling. Kurt was talking in a ironic way.

#417, by PauLina (guest), on 19 November 2009, 4:33 pm

So I prefer Thursday because from December on Teusday I'll have 1,5h english lesson in PON... so... we have a problem :P

#418, by Szoku (guest), on 19 November 2009, 4:01 pm


#419, by Szoku (guest), on 19 November 2009, 4:00 pm

Tonight`d the night;) Nirvana ;D

#420, by cottage (guest), on 18 November 2009, 10:34 pm

guys, fewer people, fewer;) write or come and talk to me about tuesdays and thursdays.. how should i know? would be great if could come as many of u as possible.. still, if u can't make it, the stuff watched in the tv room is available for all of u.. just find our great BEN in the cantorek and he'll surely help u to catch up.. hope to see u tomorrow.. g'night

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